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Are there any risks to discontinuing Plavix one year after having a stent implanted? Would one be more susceptible to a stroke?

LINDA R replied: "Every situation is different. Talk to your doctor about the risks and benefits of continuing or discontinuing specific treatments for your condition."

RY replied: "To serious for any of us to answer here, best to talk the Doctor that has you on Plavix .I am on plavix and would not dream of stopping unless the doctor advised me to stop."

Ty B replied: "Yes, you increase your chances of having either a stroke or another heart attack if you discontinue your Plavix. The stents are still a foreign object in your body and tend to develop clots on them if your blood isn't properly thinned. While the risk is lower now than it was in the beginning, you should continue taking the medication until your doctor deems that it carries more risk for you than benefit. Good luck... (brother has 5 stents for 4 years now, takes Plavix and aspirin)"

Donna B replied: "Yes and you risk developing a blood clot blocking off your stent and having a heart attack. Speak with your cardiologist first."

Quasi Moto replied: "No! No! No! I wouldn't do that unless my doctor told me to. Plavix prevents clots. The stent is a foreign body and can cause clots unless you are treated with something. If you are worried about cost, talk to your doctor. Something else might work."

Tracy M replied: "I agree with all of the answers here, this question is best answered by your cardiologist. Plavix works as an adjunct to aspirin and keeps the platelets in the blood very slippery. It prevents platelet aggregation, which in turn reduces the risk for clot formation which could lead to a heart attack or stroke. People are started on Plavix after getting a stent, and usually take it for at least a year. Some of our patients are advised to stay on it long term, while others, for various reasons, are allowed to stop after a year. Again, each situation is very unique and specific to each patient. Talk to your cardiologist only about stopping this medicine. Hope this was somewhat helpful."

What is the mechanism that allows patents with coronary stents to eventually stop taking Plavix? While the appropriate duration of anti-platlet or anti-coagulant therepy is currently being investicated (believed to be 6 months, a year or longer), it appears that the general theory is that it can eventually be stopped. Currently, it appears that it can be stopped sooner with bare metal stents than it can with drug eluding stents. What I would like to better understand is, why can it ever be stopped with either stent type. What happens to reduce the chance of clot formation after a year say, that allows Plavix to be discontinued? Is it that tissue grows over the stent? If so, then why go through the trouble of making drug eluding stents, which attempt to fight said tissue growth? Also, if tissue growth is bad, because it causes the vessel to close, then what happens when the drugs on the drug coated stents are used up? Do the drugs just delay the inevitable? If so, how long is the delay? Thanks for the detailed reply. However, Taxus Express2 DES elude a drug specifically for slowing epitilialization! While I appreciate that there may be a need to minimize this process, so as not to allow too much growth into the vessel, it seems reckless to prevent such growth all together, thereby preventing full bio-compatibility. If the plaque is soft enough that it can be pressed, like play-doh up against the artery wall, Why can't it simply be scrapped back into the catheter and removed.

Sancira replied: "Your pharmacist and DR can help you with these questions far better than anyone on here. Good luck!=-1073752565"

c_schumacker replied: "-You got it right...let me explain. When the angioplasty is performed - essentially what happens is that a balloon simply crushes the flow limiting lesions (plaques - at least 70% blockage) out of the way. A stent is deployed and "sprung" into place, propping the vessel open. Now after you crush the plaque, this is very thrombogenic as a thrombus is part of the typical healing process (but definitely not too good in the middle of a large artery supplying your heart muscle with blood). The drug eluting stents (DES) are coated with medication that is anti-thrombotic and the Plavix assists the process. At this point lets compare the bare metal stents - the Plavix of course prevents the thrombus here too. But why do you only need it for three months...because the healing occurs faster (because the healing process was not being inhibited at the site of the stent by the stent) After three months, all healed. The stents have been epithelialized and are now seamlessly part of the artery. So I hear you asking - why did we ever use the DES in the first place? Because once the angioplasty is performed there is a very high risk period where a thrombus could form shortly after the procedure is performed - thus precipitating an acute event (a heart attack!). The DES have a substantially reduced episodes (roughly 30% for bare metal verses less than 10% for DES). Here's the rub - the DES stents often never epithelialize. That means that there's a rough, mesh, straw-like structure inside the artery forever. Anything that causes swirling or eddies in the blood stream can also be thrombogenic too - hence the recommendation for continued use of Plavix indefinitely in some cases. We risk stratify based on a few things - *the length of the stent or stents deployed consecutively *the location of the stent (high risk verses moderate or low risk) *the baseline risk for a patient being hypercoagulable in the first place - e.g. smoker, hypertensive, cancer, etc. *Pateint preference. Our understanding of this is a best guess at this point. We hope to have some clinical trials to guide us more definitively on all of this some time in the future. The original flow-limiting lesions are plaques are not the simple intimal lining found in healthy arteries - so having the "skin" that grows over the stents is not at risk for over growth and causing blockage again. The enemy is the plaque. With our current understanding, these plaques grow through having excess cholesterol and triglycerides in our system. There are some great studies that show with agressive control (always through use of high dose medications, like statins) of cholesterol the plaques can be stablized and in fact reduced. (see the HATS and ARBITOR2 studies) Not all patients follow our advice, however. They continue to smoke, have poorly controlled hypertension, diabetes, and high cholesterol - which, you guessed it, can result in "in-stent restenosis." This has nothing to do with the thrombogenesis or Plavix we discussed above. I hope this has answered your questions and helps. Good luck. Addendum - I am not sure how you invent a stent that attempts to prevent a biological response entirely - clotting - but then does not affect epithelialization. When first introduced it was thought that once the drug stopped being eluting - about six to nine months, that epithelialization would occur then...and it may in some people. But in others, the show is over and no additional healing occurs...the stent remains pressed in the arterial wall. Really this idea that the intimal lining over-grows and is responsible for stenosis is just not the case. I understand that there is work being done on a magnesium stent that will actually might dissolve over time - interesting. Also, I am sure, full of potential unforeseen consequences. The pressures used to clear stenosis is 3 atmospheres; which is significant - it is a misnomer to think of the plaques like Play-dough. It is called angioplasty, afterall - material is moved - 70% or greater blockage (often near totally occluded) to usually to 0%. "Digging" the material out would in no way change everything we just discussed and we would be back to the days of - no stents - which resulted in frequent thrombosis and restenosis at the same spot. (aka the Halcyon Days for interventionalist cardiologists) There are "cutting balloons" that are sometimes used to clear severely calcified plaques (have their own risk of embolization - even though a screen is deployed downstream from the procedure). I hope that answered your questions - and I hope at this point that I have earned my 10 points (uncramping my typing fingers-whew) have a good day, my friend."

what is side effect of plavix(clopidogrel) after taking it for one year? i'm taking 75 mg plavix for may maintenance to prevent blood cloting form in my artery,i want to know if there side effect if i will discontinue taking it.

imsety replied: "Stomach upset/pain, diarrhea, constipation, headache, dizziness, rash, flu-like symptoms, or back/joint pain may occur. If any of these effects persist or worsen, notify your doctor or pharmacist promptly. And you have a good day."

Jennifer P replied: "don't stop taking plavix on your own without consulting your doctor, the effects of discontinuing the medicing could be far worse than the side effects of the medication. If you stop taking it before the doctor says it's ok, complications such at pulmonary embolus, deep vein thrombosis, stroke, or heart attack could occur"

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